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Special Comment: Keith asks Levin and Ingraham: “Why do you hate our troops?”

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Special Comment: Keith asks Levin and...

August 27, 2008
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On Monday, Keith Olbermann delivered a post-script to his Special Comment from last week in which he told President Bush to “shut the hell up.” Since some lunatic fringe commentators were deliberately twisting Keith’s words and implying that he called American soldiers — and not Bush administration officials, to whom he was clearly referring — “cold-blooded killers who will kill people to achieve their political objectives,” he felt compelled to clarify his remarks.

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It seems to me that these right-wingers have inadvertently shown their true colors, their instinctive hatred of and contempt for, these self-sacrificing Americans, who have been needlessly placed in harm’s way by these very commentators and the politicians they support.

They hear criticism of our nation’s collective conduct in Iraq, and immediately assume it’s the fault of the soldiers.

In the wake of an insult that exists only in their minds and never in my words nor in my heart, there remains, I think, only one question to ask: Laura Ingraham and Mark Levin: Why do you hate our troops?

Full transcripts below the fold:

And, finally, as promised a reiteration tonight regarding last week’s Special Comment.

You may remember Mr. Bush had used a cumbersome phrase to describe insurgents in Iraq: “cold-blooded killers who will kill people to achieve their political objectives.”

Last Wednesday, I quoted the phrase to say that Mr. Bush had now also given America“cold-blooded killers who will kill people to achieve their political objectives.”

I identified them as Mr. Bush’s personnel — quote “those in - or formerly in - your employ, who may yet be charged some day with war crimes.” I also described the chaos of post-invasion Iraq, with “an American viceroy, enforced by merciless mercenaries who shoot unarmed Iraqis and then evade prosecution in any country by hiding behind” Mr. Bush’s skirts.

No writer nor broadcaster is ever as clear and precise as he thinks he is.

Television goes by quickly and the viewer is not provided a copy of a script.

So it is possible that reasonable viewers might have been confused by exactly to whom I referred, especially considering I edited the original line: “Mr. Bush, at long last, has it not dawned on you that the America you have now created, includes cold-blooded killers who will kill people to achieve their political objectives? They are called your Cabinet. And your Pentagon.”

During the editing process it seemed that was a little broad — that there appear to be men in both places — General Ricardo Sanchez, former Secretary of State Powell, perhaps even Secretary of Defense Gates — who did not merit inclusion in that list.

Obviously, my use of Mr. Bush’s phrase “cold-blooded killers” did not refer to U.S. troops.

I have never had anything but the highest respect for them and their sacrifice.

This newscast constantly advocates their causes, their needs, our collective debt to them. And we constantly call out the administration’s failure to honor them, to protect them, to stop the Pentagon from sticking a band-aid on those whose hearts and minds are broken and send them back for another tour.

The U.S. troops in Iraq, even those few who have done bad things, are victims in this equation.

And most are the proverbial innocent bystanders.

My use of Mr. Bush’s phrase “cold-blooded killers” referred not to them, but rather those former and current members of Mr. Bush’s administration and Pentagon who so irresponsibly unleashed the hounds of war, and may indeed some day face war crimes trials.

And that phrase “merciless mercenaries” seemed to be self-explanatory.

Neither are these U.S. troops, not when there are literally mercenaries in Mr. Bush’s employ, principally from Blackwater-USA, who literally shot unarmed Iraqis, most infamously in a massacre in Baghdad last September.

But strangely, when the terms “cold-blooded killers” and “mercenaries” were used in a public forum, my critics in the lunatic fringe, rather than even considering that the criticism even might be directed at the Pentagon or the administration or Blackwater-USA, immediately decided that these were descriptions of our American heroes fighting in Iraq.

It is perhaps instructive, that to the right-wing commentators, and the right-wing blogs, those terms should first evoke not the war-mongers of the Pentagon or the gun-men from Blackwater… but U.S. troops.

I cannot imagine that kind of evil knee-jerk reflex.

I feel very sorry for those who have shown it.

It seems to me that these right-wingers have inadvertently shown their true colors, their instinctive hatred of and contempt for, these self-sacrificing Americans, who have been needlessly placed in harm’s way by these very commentators and the politicians they support.

They hear criticism of our nation’s collective conduct in Iraq, and immediately assume it’s the fault of the soldiers.

In the wake of an insult that exists only in their minds and never in my words nor in my heart, there remains, I think, only one question to ask:

Laura Ingraham and Mark Levin: why do you hate our troops?


Join The Citizen Filibuster of the...

August 26, 2008
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Yes, I know that the FISA Amendments Act has passed both houses of Congress and been passed into law. I know that the filibuster in the Senate failed.

Now it’s time for a filibuster by the citizens of the United States of America.

The Democrats and Republicans who voted for the FISA Amendments Act did it in the middle of the summer because they think that Americans are too superficial to pay attention. They think we Americans have a short attention span, and that a few days at the beach will remove any of the anger we feel as a result of watching members of both parties in our Congress rip the Constitution to shreds.

Barack Obama and 71 other senators voted to kill the Senate filibuster. They voted to end debate and just pass the FISA Amendments Act.

filibuster obama fisa amendments actThanks to Barack Obama and his Republican allies, the Senate can no longer speak on the grave abuses of the FISA Amendments Act. So, it’s up to us to speak.

The politicians in Washington D.C. expect that you will just be upset for a few days, and then you’ll forget about it. Prove them wrong.

Join a citizen filibuster of the FISA Amendments Act. Don’t stop writing. Don’t stop talking. Don’t stop calling your members of Congress until the FISA Amendments Act is repealed.

Democracy will die when citizens no longer care enough to work to defend it.


FOF #801 - Gay Republican - 07.17.08

August 25, 2008
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Make up artist and gay Republican Marcus HaynesIt’s not easy being pink, especially when you’re a gay Republican, or part of the Pink Elephant party, as I like to call it.

You’re an outsider both in gay circles and in the Republican party, a stranger in a strange land.

I’ve really been enjoying reading about Barbara Walter’s life in her tell-all memoir “Audition” where she marvels at the appeal of talk-show foil Elisabeth Hasselbeck. She’s the sexy but conservative Republican on the show who for some reason or another always stands by her man, but in this case it’s the disaster we all know as President George W Bush.

Marcus Haynes loves his Feast of Fools t-shirt!I thought it would be fun to find a gay Republican to talk to on the show, one who doesn’t fit the mold of a staunch, suit-wearing conservative. Well here he is.

Say hello to Marcus Haynes- make-up artist, image consultant, communications researcher and GAY REPUBLICAN. Yes, his MySpace page has a Louis Vuitton background, and yes, he loves his designer bags.

Besides talking about American politics and our dire need for Universal Health Care system, Marcus really knows his make-up and can make anyone look flawless.

Marcus puts brow gel on me, much to my trepidationI was a bit scared when he took his brush to my face, worrying he would make me look like a fierce drag queen. Nothing wrong with that, but today I wanted to look like a hot dude.

Here’s a photo of my face as Marcus puts on Christian Dior “Diorshow Brow” eyebrow gel on my face. Be gentle Marcus!

A lot of our guests like to show off their fancy drawers for us!Marcus gives Fausto a hug, Fausto Loves his Makeup!

Barbie as Black CanaryBarbie has a brand new look and it’s a dirty whore. Well, not a dirty whore but Barbie as Black Canary, the DC comic book character. Some right wing Christians are saying that she looks more like an S&M dominatrix than a superhero. You go Barbie and get your freak on because we know that Ken isn’t given it to you.

Perez Hilton is getting sued after publishing on the front of his site a homophobic email he received. Diane Wargo wrote the famous blogger and called him a “Fat Gay Pig” and is now suing him for $25 million because she lost her job after she was inundated with hate mail from Perez readers. She was on company time and used her company email address to spew her idiocy so her boss canned her.

I’m not one to publicly display people’s email addresses when they email nasty comments but I’m glad Perez did it to her. This homophobic crap has got to stop and people should be held accountable for their actions. He should sue her! And I should sue them both for having to blog about it.

We’ve got a couple of fun threads in the forums right now. The first one, Strangest thing you’ve had sex with, was started by Knicknack11 because he heard the topic on the show and became interested in what other people were into. And the other thread is So try to gross me out! started by Marc Felion. It’s pretty gross but we’re trying to keep it to hot guys that have something gross going on. It’s not for the squeamish.

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Blue Chip Canadian Science Group...

August 24, 2008
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"The pace with which action is being taken in Canada does not reflect adequately the urgency of the threat (of global warming)."

With those worlds, 130 of Canada's top climate scientists have written the attached letter to urge all "elected government leaders" in Canada to pick up that pace - to do something about climate change and do it quickly.

This will undoubtedly be dismissed in certain quarters as another chapter in the ongoing "battle of the lists," further evidence that there is a scientific "debate" over the relevance of climate change because you have groups of "scientists" on both sides of the issue signing letters, petitions or declarations urging action or inaction.

It's tempting, in that light, to make some obvious arguments:

* that "our scientists" are better than "their scientists" (check the attached list: these are overwhelmingly people with serious careers and widespread credibility, rather than the deniers for hire and the academic also-rans who populate the oily think tank lists);

* that "our science" is endorsed by the U.S. Academies of Science, the Royal Societies of London and Canada, the Nobel Prize winning Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change and all of the other major science academies in every developed country in the world; while their science is endorsed by Exxon Mobil and think tanks like the Heartland Institute, an organization that is still taking money from big tobacco while trying to convince people that smoking is a reasonable and safe life choice.

But in advancing the arguments, I find myself advancing into the trap. The focus goes back to the debate, and away from the nature of this most pressing warning.

The scientists say that even in Canada (which may be spared some of the worst early effects of climate change)

"global greenhouse gas concentrations are increasing, sea level rising and Arctic sea ice decreasing faster than projected only a few years ago. Water shortages are predicted in the western Prairies, the Okanagan and in the Great Lakes basin."

Accordingly, the scientists say,

??"Earlier targets to avoid human interference with the climate system are now seen to be inadequate. Addressing greenhouse gas emissions will require a polluter-pay approach and absolute emission caps. ??Adaptation to the inevitable impacts of climate change is now imperative and we need a national adaptation strategy to minimize those impacts and gain whatever benefits there may be."

In response, we have a federal government (in league with an Alberta government) that is so addicted to Alberta's oil (and its votes) that it will gladly disregard a global threat. We have a prime minister who descends into crudity and ridicule rather than debating the merit of climate change policy.

We have a public relations debate instead of a sober conversation about science.

The scientists who have attached their name to this list deserve credit for their courage, their passion and their considerable good work. It's just too bad that Canadian politicians are doing such a bad job that scientists or this quality and standing feel they have to insert themselves into this ridiculously political discussion.??

 


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Mobile Video Broadcasting Shows...

August 23, 2008
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Television original meaning (from the Greek tele, meaning "far," and the Latin visio, meaning "sight") is a telecommunication system for broadcasting and receiving moving pictures and sound over long distances. In other words, it is a system, that would naturally endow those using it to show things and events that were happening somewhere else from where the audience would be.

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But, most of what we see today on TV is very rarely "reality" as it is happening somewhere else. Even newscasts and sports events now are strongly pre-packaged for television programming with lots of predetermined breaks and sequences that influence quite significantly the type of event you get to be looking at.

As far as I am concerned, live television is all to be re-invented and the new real-time video broadcasting tools that allow just about anyone to switch on their personal broadcasting stations is a tremendous opportunity to leverage this huge entertainment, informational and learning opportunity.

So, as the number ofmobile video streaming services increases each month, the real battle is not so much for who has the best performance or video quality, or even the greatest number of videos or viewers, but for who can best create relevant context around such sometimes great, yet so diverse and unpredictable content.

This is why, while John just got excited with QIK and its cool relationship with social media tool Twitter, I am instead sliding down my enthusiasm for the platform which has seen much improvement in its looks, reliability and feature-set, but has made too little progress on creating valuable context around the content its users create. Nonetheless QIK has created a site, Qiklife, entirely devoted to this very specific task, creating context around content, I feel it has not yet succeeded in giving the right exposure and context to the many quality clips submitted daily to its service.

The mistake may be not peculiar toQIK, but representative of a trend that most other personal live video broadcasting services are experiencing. Just like for non-live video on YouTube and other major video sharing sites, it took and it is still taking some time for these services to develop cool and simple ways for quality content to emerge and to be associated with relevant related context.

In fact, it is exciting to see how many new web-based services such as Splashcast, Magnify, Panjea and Videocrawler and many other ones, have been created to leverage the bottom-up, grassroots, spontaneous ability of people like you to create the valuable context and content aggregation without which, whatever gems you have get lost in an ocean of noise.

So, if you are hungry to start experimenting with your own ability to broadcast live from wherever you are check out one of these tools:

  • QIK

  • Pocketcaster

  • Flyxwagon

  • Kyte

  • Bambuser

  • Seero

  • Next2friends

If instead, you want to get a deeper feel for what this new media trend is all about, here's John Blossom's own view on the fascination and potential created by the synergy of live mobile video casting and the real-time social news spreading ability of social networking communities as Twitter.

Check it out:

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A Quick Take on Qik: Mobile Social Media is Here. Kind Of.

by John Blossom

In days past people would tune in to late-night talk shows on the television to catch up with banter from stars, politicians and comedians. These days the bleary-eyed can look forward to "tweets" - messages from Twitter members - inviting people to join them in a Qik session.




What is Qik And How You Can Use it

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Qik enables people with video-enabled mobile phones to stream their video to the Web and to join in text chats with people who've been notified of their instant events or leave comments. Your Qik videos are stored at Qik's site for later retrieval, building a library of online conversations and events.

A nifty concept, but one that is, like the Twitter network on which people tell people about Qik happenings, a work in progress.

When you first connect to a Qik it's kind of neat - you see people milling about, things happening, so you type in a chat message and then...nothing happens. In the few Qiks that I've received so far, the signal drops within a few minutes at most and there doesn't seem to be any self-sustaining chats.

Like in Twitter's early phases (and for that matter until the code jocks arrived there a few days ago) Qiks come and go with the tantalizing promise of something interesting that isn't delivering up to its potential just yet.

I was especially intrigued by Robin Good 's late-night visit to a jazz club in Rome - a lot more fun to be part of that than your typical conference mixer. Robin Good has made active use of Qik for several months, but the use of Twitter in combination with Qik adds a real-time messaging aspect to the service for people on the go that enables them to catch things as they're happening.

Qik includes GPS-enabled location information as well, so a quick tweet can let you peek in on a scene and see if it's worth checking out and then check the location information to see where it is.




Business For Qik

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It's not clear that there's much of a business model for Qik - probably destined for an exit in the next year would be my guesstimate - but in the meantime I think that it's bringing us one step closer to mobile video calls that will provide meaningful personal content to both personal and general audiences.

As with Twitter, Qik seems to have its own personal protocols that need to be mastered - do that many people know how to get people to put on a good video show? - but short of that with the combo of Twitter and Qik I think that we'll be hearing a lot more about mobile video in the year ahead. I'm waiting for a Qik driver that works with my phone (or for a new phone later this year) but I think that I'll give it a shot the next time that I am at a trade show. It would be a lot nicer to shoot Qik segments of vendors and then just line up links to them on my blog than to fuss with stringing together video segments into a cohesive video blog entry.

Looking forward to yourQik tweets!




Originally written by John Blossom for Content Nation and first published on 24th June 2008 as "A Quick Take on Qik: Mobile Social Media is Here. Kind Of."



John Blossom's career spans more than twenty years of marketing, research, product management and development in advanced information and media venues, including major financial publishers and financial services companies, as well as earlier experience in broadcast media.

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Mr. Blossom founded Shore Communications Inc. in 1997, specializing in research and advisory services and strategic marketing consulting for publishers and consumers of content services.





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Video: Obama forgoes public financing

August 22, 2008
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June 19: With his huge fundraising advantage, Barack Obama reversed course and opted out of public campaign financing. Does that make Obama a hypocrite, a smart politician or both? A Hardball panel discusses. (Hardball)June 19: With his huge fundraising advantage, Barack Obama reversed course and opted out of public campaign financing. Does that make Obama a hypocrite, a smart politician or both? A Hardball panel discusses. (Hardball)



Mercury Theater On The Air #17

August 21, 2008
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From: 381030_17a War Of The Worlds - Uncut 57:17 Min <> 13.1 Mb ---------------------------------------------- War of the Worlds Panic By Tom Ferguson On October 30, 1938 Orson Welles and the Mercury Theater of the Air presented The War of the Worlds by H.G. Wells. Over a million people panicked thinking it was real and that Mars was invading the Earth. To understand this phenomenon, we must examine Orson Welles, the Mercury Theater ensemble, the show itself and the times it was presented in. Orson Welles was a great artist and a grand showman in equal measure. His creativity has been compared to an open fire hydrant; it took his partnership with John Houseman to bring it into its best use. As much as he revered classical literature (from Shakespeare to Kafka), he also adored popular cultural forms like the magic show and genres like thrillers, horror tales and melodramas. Crucially, Welles never kept art and show business separate; he played everything both for sensational thrills and for poetic resonance. Although Welles can often seem like a prophet of the postmodern, few today are able to work on these dual levels in the way he did. Orson Welles insisted on doing an adaptation of H.G. Wells War of the Worlds for his Halloween show even though his advisors thought that it would prove too boring for the radio audience. Originally Lorna Doone was to air but three weeks before the broadcast, Welles told producer, John Houseman and writer, Howard Koch of the change. Under Welles direction, Koch set the Martian invasion in modern America. To add impact, the first half of the drama was written and performed so it would sound like a news broadcast about an invasion from Mars. This was the first time that this technique had been used. Koch, fearing that the play would be a flop, went to bed early that night, missing the show. What added the greatest impact to the show was the incredible timing. Welles directed the actors, sound effects, dialog, and music like it was a complex symphony. In all of the Mercury Theater’s work the use of George Herrmann's music is sparing and precise; Welles once said that he worked closely, note for note, with the composer. Equally sparing is Welles' use of sound effects. Also, keep in mind that in 1938, radio broadcasts were presented live. As for the show itself, on Sunday evening, at 8 p.m. Eastern time, a voice on CBS said: "The Columbia Broadcasting System and its affiliated stations present Orson Welles and the Mercury Theatre of the Air in 'The War of the Worlds,' by H.G. Wells." The play itself started off in a quiet and somewhat boring way with a simulated radio program featuring dance music. As the play unfolded, the dance music was interrupted a number of times by fake news bulletins reporting that a "huge flaming object" had dropped on a farm near Grovers Mill, New Jersey. The bulletins started just over five minutes into the show. Just before this on another network, Edgar Bergen and Charley McCarthy show had just finished their opening skit and many people started the 1938 version of channel surfing and landed on the Mercury Theater’s news bulletins. For the next half hour the intensity of the news bulletins increased. The broadcast contained several explanations that it was all a radio play, but if members of the audience missed a brief explanation at the beginning, the next one didn't arrive until 40 minutes into the program. At one point in the broadcast, an actor playing a newscaster in the field described the emergence of one of the aliens from its spacecraft. "Good heavens, something's wriggling out of the shadow like a gray snake," he said, in a dramatic tone. "Now it's another one, and another. They look like tentacles to me. There, I can see the thing's body. It's large as a bear and it glistens like wet leather. But that face. It... it's indescribable. I can hardly force myself to keep looking at it. The eyes are black and gleam like a serpent. The mouth is V-shaped with saliva dripping from its rimless lips that seem to quiver and pulsate.... The thing is raising up. The crowd falls back. They've seen enough. This is the most extraordinary experience. I can't find words. I'm pulling this microphone with me as I talk. I'll have to stop the description until I've taken a new position. Hold on, will you please, I'll be back in a minute." Later, we hear the reporter’s death and an ominous thud as the microphone hits the ground and then several seconds of silence. Listening to the simulated newscasts, 1.2 million people concluded that they were hearing an actual news account of an invasion from Mars. People packed the roads, hid in cellars, loaded guns, and even wrapped their heads in wet towels as protection from Martian poison gas, in an attempt to defend themselves against aliens. One man ran out to his kennel of great danes and upon releasing them shouted “Fend for yourselves boys!” While there were no actual fatalities, one man arrived at home just in time to stop his wife from taking poison so she wouldn’t fall into Martian hands. At the end of the broadcast, police raided the studio confiscating scripts and segregating the players. The cast was made to think that thousands died. Houseman thought that the ditches were choked with copses. In a column, in the New York Tribune, Dorothy Thompson foresaw that the broadcast revealed the way politicians could use the power of mass communications to manipulate the public. "All unwittingly, Mr. Orson Welles and the Mercury Theater of the Air have made one of the most fascinating and important demonstrations of all time," she wrote. "They have proved that a few effective voices, accompanied by sound effects, can convince masses of people of a totally unreasonable, completely fantastic proposition as to create a nation-wide panic. "They have demonstrated more potently than any argument, demonstrated beyond a question of a doubt, the appalling dangers and enormous effectiveness of popular and theatrical demagoguery.... "Hitler managed to scare all of Europe to its knees a month ago, but he at least had an army and an air force to back up his shrieking words. "But Mr. Welles scared thousands into demoralization with nothing at all." To understand how all this could happen, you must look at what was happening in the world. On March 11, 1938 Germany invaded Austria. May 20th, the “May Crisis” with Germany threatening war in Czechoslovakia. On May 28th, Hitler told his generals, "It is my unshakable will that Czechoslovakia shall be wiped off the map." He instructed them to develop a plan for completing this by October 1st. September 12th, Hitler makes his speech at the Nuremberg Rally. On Thursday, September 29th, the four powers, Germany, England, France and Italy met in Munich to decide the fate of Czechoslovakia and on October 1st Germany occupies the Sudeten German territory in Czechoslovakia. Also in October the Spanish Civil War raged. Over the Ebro front the Fascists operate up to 200 planes at the same time, a number never seen in any war on the world before. The Republican Army of the Ebro is bombed to pieces. On October 21st, the Spanish government pulls back the International Brigades. In other parts of the world, on October 21st Japan occupies Canton and other important Chinese cities. All of this was reported on the radio in a constant stream of news bulletins. They all knew a world war was coming, is it no wonder that they were ready to panic at the drop of a hat?


obama as bush’s third term (wall...

August 20, 2008
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brownfemipower recently argued (here, http://brownfemipower.com/archives/2617) that, as a woman of color (and her perspective only she hastened to add), she couldn’t sympathize with white feminists being upset at the loss of clinton’s candidacy for president. among her argument was that, of course, as a latina woman, she wasn’t sad that a candidate who supported militarizing the borders didn’t win the nomination. were i interested in participating in blog conversations, i might have posted a comment to point out that such rhetoric makes it appear that obama is an improvement. which, it seemed to me, seemed to contradict her earlier stated position that all the screaming about who’s sexist and who’s racist in the democratic run off was making it difficult to talk about issues of concern to women of color *as* women of color — and not, as some like to say, women who are also black or women who are also brown. i point to that latter way of phrasing it because i read it the other day, and it highlights how, even people who consider themselves white women who “get it” such phrasing doesn’t really “get it” at all.

but the issues that mattered to women of color, brownfemipower seemed to argue, were issues that recognized the inadequacies of *both* candidates. (she wrote this in comments here, http://elleabd.blogspot.com/2008/05/trying-to-understand-division.html#comment-6878230785463181948)

On my view, of course, they are humpty and dumpty, tweedledee and tweedledum. they both run to the right, they both triangulate, they both are paltry advances over the alternatives from the republican party. there was very little, substantively, that made these two candidates different. which is why, it seemed to me and what i told charles brown at lbo, there should be utterly no shame in voting for a candidate because of his race or her gender. if they are both essentially the same, how can you possible decide on substance? it has to be on an issue besides substance.

it kind of killed me to watch the tube and listen to the radio, where this was widely acknowledged. the candidates acknowledged that they were largely the same, policy-wise. but the last few months have been a ridiculous pretense, on behalf of supporters, that they are not, that there’s something different worth voting *for* obama or something different worth voting *for* clinton.

the mantra of the last few elections cycles, Anybody But a Republican, followed by a sigh of resignation was common among radical leftists. even among the pwogs. but this year? when the candidates for the dem nomination were more alike than ever before –christ, we had sharpton one year! — hardly anyone who was entrapped by the bullshit of electoral politics uttered the phrase that, at one time, seemed to be the only reason anyone voted for a dem: less evil, anybody but a republican.

finally, finally, i heard it: someone who supported obama honestly. ta-nehisi coates said it well the other day, at the brecht forum debates on obama. (link for an mp3 of the discussion here, http://www.wallstreetthebook.com/BrechtObamaPanel.mp3) from a radical left (not progressive, but radical left) perspective, obama had a lot of faults, and coates reeled them off. he knows all that, he told us. but, in the end, he couldn’t help get excited. he couldn’t help getting swept up in the emotions at a picnic for black men he attended earlier in the day, where people who stoked about seeing a black man on t.v. who wasn’t the face in a mug shot. his discussion was admirable because he didn’t ignore the reality: there is a lot, from a radical left perspective, that is reprehensible about obama. there is nothing, he said, substantive in his positions that is worthy of voting *for*. nothing, that is, that truly distinguishes obama from clinton or anyone else that had been a contender. there may be one slightly more progressive thing here, such as not sounding like pat buchanan on militarization of the border, but then there was another issue where clinton might be slightly more ‘left’ (to use the term loosely) and obama slightly more right. it was a wash.

i admire coates for his honesty. i can respect that reasoning. it makes sense to me. he did not try to argue that electing a black man as cheif operating officer of the imperial state would actually change race relations or improve his life or the life of other people of color. he simply said, basically (and to paraphrase): can you dig it? it makes me feel good to see a good looking, smart black man representing. it improves my well-being and there’s a little bit of bounce ot our collective steps these days because of it.

he’s not blowing smoke up my ass trying to convince me that there was ever a substantive difference between them or that, somehow, obama is only saying what he has to say to get elected or that, in fact, his positions are really progressive, maybe even radical!

i could be almost convinced to vote for obama if i thought that the radical leftists supporting him could get behind coates’ program. but they’re not. instead, either overtly or inadvertantly, they insist or let leak out their true feelings: their shared delusion that obama is and remains different, an improvement over clinton, someone who will not triangulate, someone who will not pander to the right to win, someone who is really a progressive, someone who is more honest than your typical politician. the list is endless as to the bullshit i’ve read at lbo.

the wall st. journal today decided that obama is the new bush. bush’s third term. ayup. of course, putting on my cynical, love-to-analyze-the-horse-race-and-psych-out-republican- strategy hat, my guess is that the wall st. journal is laying the ground work for a values attack on obama as a liar, waffler, etc. this becomes really obvious at the end. nonetheless, the rest of what they have to say is worth considering.

i think especially so because noam chomsky and doug henwoud have both frequently pointed out that you can always tell what the rulling class is thinking simply by reading the wall st. journal and other organs of the ruling class. noam chomsky doesn’t have to consult obscure sources to document the atrocities of u.s. imperialism, he finds his sources in the wall st. journal, the new york times, etc. etc.

and you can read what the ruling class is thinking on the op-ed pages of the wsj. at least one sector of the ruling class — the one that closely articulates the business sector’s interests (’coz the ruling class is never a monolith of same opinion and thankd og for that) — happns to be apalled by some aspects of obamas running dog conservativism. (Yes, I know, the real etymology behind ‘running dog’. work with me heeyah. :)

who knows what will happen with obama. at this point, i honestly don’t think he will win, and it won’t be because some white women voted for mccain because they were pissed about clinton. it’ll be because obama hardly distinguishes himself from mccain.

Wall Street Jounral - July 2, 2008

Bush’s Third Term

We’re beginning to understand why Barack Obama keeps protesting so vigorously against the prospect of “George Bush’s third term.” Maybe he’s worried that someone will notice that he’s the candidate who’s running for it. Most Presidential candidates adapt their message after they win their party nomination, but Mr. Obama isn’t merely “running to the center.” He’s fleeing from many of his primary positions so markedly and so rapidly that he’s embracing a sizable chunk of President Bush’s policy. Who would have thought that a Democrat would rehabilitate the much-maligned Bush agenda?

Take the surveillance of foreign terrorists. Last October, while running with the Democratic pack, the Illinois Senator vowed to “support a filibuster of any bill that includes retroactive immunity for telecommunications companies” that assisted in such eavesdropping after 9/11. As recently as February, still running as the liberal favorite against Hillary Clinton, he was one of 29 Democrats who voted against allowing a bipartisan Senate Intelligence Committee reform of surveillance rules even to come to the floor.

Two weeks ago, however, the House passed a bill that is essentially the same as that Senate version, and Mr. Obama now says he supports it. Apparently legal immunity for the telcos is vital for U.S. national security, just as Mr. Bush has claimed. Apparently, too, the legislation isn’t an attempt by Dick Cheney to gut the Constitution. Perhaps it is dawning on Mr. Obama that, if he does become President, he’ll be responsible for preventing any new terrorist attack. So now he’s happy to throw the New York Times under the bus.

Next up for Mr. Obama’s political blessing will be Mr. Bush’s Iraq policy. Only weeks ago, the Democrat was calling for an immediate and rapid U.S. withdrawal. When General David Petraeus first testified about the surge in September 2007, Mr. Obama was dismissive and skeptical. But with the surge having worked wonders in Iraq, this week Mr. Obama went out of his way to defend General Petraeus against MoveOn.org’s attacks in 2007 that he was “General Betray Us.” Perhaps he had a late epiphany.

Look for Mr. Obama to use his forthcoming visit to Iraq as an excuse to drop those withdrawal plans faster than he can say Jeremiah Wright “was not the person that I met 20 years ago.” The Senator will learn ­ as John McCain has been saying ­ that withdrawal would squander the gains from the surge, set back Iraqi political progress, and weaken America’s strategic position against Iran. Our guess is that he’ll spin this switcheroo as some kind of conditional commitment, saying he’ll stay in Iraq as long as Iraqis are making progress on political reconciliation, and so on. As things improve in Iraq, this would be Mr. Bush’s policy too.

Mr. Obama has also made ostentatious leaps toward Mr. Bush on domestic issues. While he once bid for labor support by pledging a unilateral rewrite of Nafta, the Democrat now says he favors free trade as long as it works for “everybody.” His economic aide, Austan Goolsbee, has been liberated from the five-month purdah he endured for telling Canadians that Mr. Obama’s protectionism was merely campaign rhetoric. Now that Mr. Obama is in a general election, he can’t scare the business community too much.

Back in the day, the first-term Senator also voted against the Supreme Court nominations of John Roberts and Samuel Alito. But last week he agreed with their majority opinion in the Heller gun rights case, and with their dissent against the liberal majority’s ruling to ban the death penalty for rape. Mr. Obama seems to appreciate that getting pegged as a cultural lefty is deadly for national Democrats ­ at least until November.

This week the great Democratic hope even endorsed spending more money on faith-based charities. Apparently, this core plank of Mr. Bush’s “compassionate conservatism” is not the assault on church-state separation that the ACLU and liberals have long claimed. And yesterday, Mr. Obama’s campaign unveiled an ad asserting his support for welfare reform that “slashed the rolls by 80 percent.” Never mind that Mr. Obama has declared multiple times that he opposed the landmark 1996 welfare reform.

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All of which prompts a couple of thoughts. The first is that Mr. Obama doesn’t seem to think American political sentiment has moved as far left as most of the media claim. Another is that the next President, whether Democrat or Republican, is going to embrace much of Mr. Bush’s foreign and antiterror policy whether he admits it or not. Think Eisenhower endorsing Truman’s Cold War architecture.

Most important is the matter of Mr. Obama’s political character ­ and how honest he is being about what he truly believes. His voting record in the Senate and in Illinois, as well as his primary positions, would make him the most liberal Presidential candidate since George McGovern in 1972. But he clearly doesn’t want voters to believe that in November. He’s still the Obama Americans don’t know.


Remembering Tim Russert

August 19, 2008
posted by admin

A picture named cheerios.gifTim Russert died on Friday. I never met the guy, but I sure was familiar with his work.

I thought he personified what was wrong with the political process, and I said so. It would be hypocritical now for me to say he was a great man, because I don't think he was. Sometimes I felt the politician he was crossing was well-equipped to speak honestly for himself, and I wanted to hear what he or she had to say, and Russert interfered. It came up in his interview this spring with Ron Paul, who actually had some new ideas that I felt deserved airing, but he couldn't get much of that past Russert, who applied his inside-the-Beltway logic. I noticed he was a lot harder on outsiders. And he was always easy when interviewing members of his profession, who he let speak without interruption, without interrogation. An odd exception, I thought -- it would be nice if they took as much care with their own consistency as they do with the people they interview

Of course his death is a sad thing, for everyone. And I did enjoy Russert enough to listen every Sunday to Meet The Press. Through the magic of podcasting, I never had to miss one. And there's a chance that this ultimate insider would have discovered the power of the rest of us, not only in the aggregate, but as individuals as well. I think they pay lip service to it, and keep it far away and abstract, content to live with their view of the world, as revolving around them, which of course in some ways, it does.

The most poignant eulogy for me came from Bob Schieffer, longtime host of Face the Nation (CBS), who was clear up front, Russert was a competitor, and both of them took the competition seriously. He said that he and Russert were also friends. This is what I want for us in the blogosphere and we don't have it. Competition here is so cutthroat, so personal, that it's impossible to have a relaxed conversation, to learn from people who compete. It would be nice if we could get to that place, if Schieffer wasn't exaggerating for effect, marking the sadness that comes with anyone's passing, even someone whose success you envy.

Update: Arianna apparently sees it the same way. smile


The Baracklaration of Obamdependence

August 18, 2008
posted by admin

Sen. Barack Obama spent the week leading up to the Fourth of July changing just about every campaign position he has taken to date. As the nation prepared to celebrate its independence from tyranny, Sen. Obama was declaring his independence from another kind of oppression-the oppression of principle and intellectual honesty. Sen. Obama, therefore, may find much to agree with in the following, with apologies to Mr. Jefferson and the Founders.


FROM
CHICAGO, JULY 4, 2008

The unanimous Declarationof the democratic candidate for president of the unitedStates of America

When in the Course of a presidential campaign it becomes necessary for one candidate to dissolve the political bands which have connected him with his previous positions and to assume for the electorate, the separate and equal station of general election candidate to which the Laws of Electoral Campaigning and Campaign Managers entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of average voters is unnecessary, lest that require that he should declare the causes which impel them to hold to principle.

Read on...

I hold these truths to be self-evident, that all political positions are created equal, that they are endowed by their Holder with certain unalienable Principles, that among these are Votes, Control and the pursuit of Power. — That to secure said principles, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the will of the governors, — That whenever any Political Opponent becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the Candidate to alter or to abolish his positions, and to institute new Policies, laying their foundation on such principles and organizing them in such form, as to him shall seem most likely to effect his Image and Election. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Principles long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn that mankind are more disposed to be fooled, while fools are sufferable than to bother themselves by taking account of the positions to which they have been accustomed. But when a long train of mistakes and untenable positions, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to prevent his election, it is his right, it is his duty, to throw off such Policies, and to provide new Beliefs for his electoral security. — Such has been the patient sufferance of my Campaign; and such is now the necessity which constrains me to alter my former Systems of Belief. The history of the present Campaign is a history of repeated missteps and misjudgments, all having in direct object the establishment of a McCain presidency over these States. To prove this, let Facts be submitted to a candid world.

I have declared my intention to redefine my Assent to the War In Iraq, the most wholesome and necessary for my public image.

I have adjusted my beliefs with respect to abortion, to secure votes among the less nuanced masses of the general public concerned with such trivialities.

I have made plain my embrace of the right to bear arms, except in my home city, and except under such circumstances as to make it practical for the public to avail itself of said right.

I have announced my intent to enshrine the policy of George W. Bush to eavesdrop on those terrorists and criminals of an international character in law, so that the public might see me as its protector.

I have sought to take credit for welfare reform, which I oppose, but nonetheless support the implementation of the same in any locale in which it may gain me votes.

I have reversed my abhorrence of capital punishment and endorsed the free exercise thereof in any case as the States may see fit, such that I may properly claim to be a man of the people in all matters of life and death, except in such cases as abortion, which I both oppose and support conditional on that issue's ability to win me favor in the press.

I have established a new precedent of funding my campaign from private donations and tributes, so as not to allocate such public monies as may be necessary to gain high office for myself and my associates.

I have steadfastly avoided any opportunity to present myself for debate with my opponent, obstructing the electorate from exposing my principles and positions, on any given day, to scrutiny.

I have affirmed my fidelity and brotherhood with innumerable campaign associates and employees, who being solely concerned with my election, have made inartful statements or been proved to have been in inconvenient connections, and have disowned same as the time and occasion required.

I, therefore, the Democratic candidate for president of the united States of America, in Chicago and Denver, Affirmed, appealing to the general election voter for the rectitude of my intentions, do, in the Name, and by Authority of the Rules and Bylaws Committee of the Democratic Party, solemnly publish and declare, That this Campaign is, and of Right ought to be Free and Independent, that the candidate is Absolved from all Allegiance to Principle, and that all political connection between him and any previously stated Position, on any issue as he may see fit, is and ought to be totally dissolved; and that as a Free and Independent Campaign, shall have full Power to Vacillate, Equivocate, Prevaricate, establish New Principles, and to do all other Acts and Things which Politicians may of right do. — And for the support of this Declaration, with a firm reliance on the protection of the Mainstream Press, I pledge to each voter my Lies, your Fortunes, and my sacred Office.

Barack Obama, Illinois

Cross posted atMark on the Right

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In Memoriam: Tim Russert (Day 2)

August 17, 2008
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Constantly updating below...

>The Newseum, which Russert helped make a reality, pays tribute...

>Doctors confirm that the cause of death was a heart attack.

>How the papers covered it...(all front page)

Washington Post:

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New York Times:

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Washington Examiner:

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NY Post:

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Washington Times:

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Newsday:

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New York Daily News:

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>The Buffalo News remembers a "favorite son."

>David Broder looks at the "many gifts of Tim Russert." Todd Gitlin talks of a "loss in the family." Tom Shales on a "smile that lit up journalism." Dan Balz: "On Tim Russert."

>MSNBC.com's online discussion boards feature emotional notes of support to Tim's son, Luke.

>Woodward on "Today": There was always a bit of Columbo in him.

>MSNBC shows an old tape of "Meet" EP Betsy Fischer: He's just a guy you want to have a beer and watch football. ... And yet he's brilliant at the same time.

>Brian Stelter on Russert's turnaround of "Meet." Sewell Chan on Russert and NY Politics.

>From a tipster:

    Tim Russert: a class act, a huge sports fan, a journalist whose habits are worth emulating by anyone who conducts interviews for a living -- that would be all of us. RIP.

>Last night's Nightly News opened with the theme song to "Meet the Press."

>Via Playbook:

    Jay Leno recalled last night than he made so many jokes about the "Florida, Florida, Florida” dry-erase board that "one Christmas, he came on, and he presented me with this, which hangs in my office" -- a board saying, "Jay! Jay! Jay!"

>Brokaw: Do me a favor and say a prayer for 'ol Timmy.

>President Bush, in Paris: "America lost a really fine citizen yesterday when Tim Russert passed away. ... I foudn him to be a hard working thorough, decent man."

>Politico: "Prepping for Russert." "Memorable Tim Russert moments."

>The Today show focuses on Russert this morning. A special Saturday edition of "Morning Joe" does the same on MSNBC.

>Obama on "Today": We prepared a lot more for Meet the Press.

>Washington City Paper: "If a recreational trail is ever built in Klingle Valley, it might be appropriate to name it in the memory of Tim Russert."

>Politicker has a cartoon:

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So does Roll Call:

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>David Gregory to Mika and Scarborough: "Tim so enjoyed the show that you two have created."

>Slate's John Dickerson tells FishbowlDC: "He was a great interviewer and he knew the right questions to ask. The thing that always struck me though was that at the top of his game I saw him do two things people at the top of their game don't often do: he was generous and kind to people of no stature or note and he went out of his way to credit the work of journalists who had reported something first or who had come up with an idea first."

>NBC's Ron Allen tells FishbowlDC: " First and foremost my wife Adaora and I want to express our deepest heartfelt sympathy to Tim's family. It's especially tragic and unbelievable when anyone so young is taken from us without warning and so much too soon. Tim seemed to be in stride and in the prime of his life...at a time in our national life that was calling out for him. I last saw him in Washington about a week ago....to experience the honor of appearing on his program.....and as always he was so engaged, excited, and present while kicking around everything politics. Over the years, Tim was always supportive and thoughtful... the kind of guy you could always have a down to earth conversation with...no nonesense....just being real. He showed us all how to be prepared and to know what we're talking about, how to be tough and always fair. He showed us all how the best at what we do spend their lives seeking the truth."

>ABC's Terry Moran tells FishbowlDC: "What Tim Russert did was put passion into political journalism at a time it was sorely needed. He loved the game, he loved the tactics and strategy--but he also loved the substance of our politics, the real debates over the real choices we face in coming to grips with our real problems. His enthusiasm for what matters in politics, which stemmed from his palpable love for our country, was a rare quality. And it remains an inspiration."

>Some coverage plans, from the release:


    SATURDAY, JUNE 14:

    8 AM -- 12 PM ET: Morning Joe -- LIVE Remembering Tim Russert

    12 PM ET: Dateline -- "Remembering Tim Russert"

    1-6 PM ET -- MSNBC LIVE -- Special Coverage -- Remembering Tim Russert

    6 PM ET: Dateline -- Remembering Tim Russert

>You'll notice that Russert has been removed from MSNBC's regular promos.

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>My Examiner colleague Jeff Dufour writes an obit...

>Statement from Bob Wright, former chairman and CEO of NBC Universal:

    I met Tim when I first came to NBC 22 years ago. He was a fireball of news energy. He loved life, his wife Maureen and his son Luke. There was no news assignment that he wasn't part of. Our Washington Bureau was forever changed by his presence and management. Meet The Press was reborn with Tim and continues today as his signature program. Tim was a big part of the launch of MSNBC, the Today Show's political coverage, Nightly News, and all of NBC's political coverage. He was generous, thoughtful, inspired and a tireless journalist who will never be forgotten!

>Tom Brokaw:

    Tim was a man of many passions -- his family most of all, his faith, his country, political journalism, baseball and the Buffalo Bills.

    As a working class Irish-American with a Jesuit education his range was wide and deep -- from the sensibilities of blue-collar voters to the politics of the Vatican, from the power plays on Capitol Hill to the power plays on network television.

    Almost all of our conversations – and they went on every day – ended with some version of, "Can you believe how lucky we are to be doing this?"

>Brian Williams:

    Tim Russert is gone. He was a giant in our company, in our lives, and in the combined fields of journalism and politics. He was my friend for many years, and my on-air partner during the most exciting political year in generations. The members of Tim's NBC News family are thinking only of the members of Tim's own family in the wake of this staggering, overpowering and sudden loss.

>Terry McAuliffe on Larry King Live:

    I couldn't believe it today. I had been on Tim's show many, many times. And I was never on a panel. I was always the one he was asking the tough questions of. But, you know, he was always fair. He was a tough interview. When I went on his show, I knew I had to be prepared. I felt like I was cramming for exams again.

    At the end of the interview, you never felt that he took any cheap shots. He let you answer the questions. And Tim and I talked an awful lot. We talked about sports. He loved politics, both from upstate New York.

    I'm devastated by the news. No one will ever be able to replace Tim Russert. When I was chairman of the party, I would go on right before every election and Tim would say, all right, Terry, I'm going to take some bets with you. So I would always have to bet money. And he would always take the toughest races. And as chairman of the party, I could never say we were going to lose. Every year, I had to spend thousands of dollars giving to the Boys and Girls Club of Washington that Tim always supported.

    But I'm going miss him. We did a lot of battles together. But, more importantly, we were great friends. And I think I speak for a lot of people who sat in the hot seat for many years, you know what, you'd never give a day back. He was spectacular. KING: Wolf, we know how much you work. Do you take heed with what Ted Koppel said?

>Kimmy Kaplan, a former "Meet" intern, tells FishbowlDC:

    I'm not a politician. I'm not a network news anchor. I'm only a fresh faced recent graduate and an aspiring journalist who had the opportunity to intern at Meet the Press and for Tim Russert this past fall. So many internships are about the skills you obtain, but that internship was more about the intangible things I learned. Sitting in that studio and watching Tim in action each Sunday was memorizing, not only because of the careful, insightful and fair questions he asked the world's greatest leaders and newsmakers, but because he was one of the hardest working news people in the business. So many people on air today are simply talent reciting the news that their production teams have worked so hard to report, but Tim was not only a member of his team, he was the captain. He worked side by side with his producers and researchers, while leading and inspiring everyone he came into contact with. He will be greatly missed by all of those people and by the audience with whom he connected on a weekly basis. I know that I will keep him and the way he did his job in the back of my mind everyday as I continue to work towards my goals and I hope that his presence will have had the same effect on all he came to contact with, whether it was through a personal relationship or through their television screens.

>Dick Cheney on "Today":

    It's a great tragedy. I was stunned yesterday to learn of Tim's passing. ... It' a tremendous loss. ... He was never into gotcha journalism, he'd ask you tough questions, remind you of quotes you had made in previous settings...so you never got away with anything. ... It wasn't just politics, it was substance. ... we certainly want to extend our prayers to Tim's family. He was a remarkable individual. We are all better for having known him.

>Obama on NBC: He was a great example of a good guy.

>Recollections: Howard Fineman, Joe Klein, NYDaily News, Bill Kristol

>Chris Matthews remembers:

>"Tribute to a Buffalo boy who made it":

>Big Russ & Me:

>The Life of Tim Russert:

>Charlie Rose remembers:

>John Edwards remembers:

>Colin Powell remembers:

>Chuck Todd remembers:

>Al Hunt:

>Ethel Kennedy:

>A giant in journalism:

>Florida! Florida! Florida!

>All the Tim Russert news you could ever want...

>Tim's books are #1 and #2 on Amazon.com:

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>You can email memories to RussertCondolences@nbcuni.com

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Episode 24: Social Media 101 Breakdown

August 16, 2008
posted by admin

The show started late because of Geoff!

 

Geoff and Aaron broke down the morning’s social media 101 event, at which Geoff keynoted and appeared on three panels, but Aaron was stone-walled.

 

Aaron remarked there were a lot of hot girls at the event., but both Geoff and Aaron quickly bailed on what could have been DC’s Sexy Geek Girls episode.

 

Aaron ragged on Matt from R2Design, while Geoff made cheap excuses for him.  But then they talked about how Geoff got cut off on the mobile question, one of Geoff’s areas of domain expertise.

 

Geoff went into his white paper. Then they ragged on the widget answer.  A great chat about the future of mobile and social continued.

 

Then they discussed how Facebook is the world’s most trafficked social network. Most of this traffic comes on the mobile phone.

 

Lauren Vargas called in briefly. Later she wins a present.

 

Then Geoff and Aaron had some good natured fun at Scoble and Gary Vaynerchuk’s behalf.  Aaron discussed the great tie between Scoble and politics that occurred.

 

Aaron was particularly impressed with the accessibility of politicians on Twitter. We discussed if it was bettering democracy. Then we discussed astroturfing and blaming the intern.

 

Qui Diaz interrupted Aaron to ask if he had her cell # programmed. Aaron got defensive.

 

A give away ensured. Discussion of Scoble event continued.  Geoff broadcasted he wasn’t going to show. And then the show ended early.

Episode 24 - MP3


REDSTATE ROUNDTABLE #10: The...

August 15, 2008
posted by admin

Dan McLaughlin: Let's open the floor: assuming Obama hangs on to claim the Democratic nomination, who will he pick as his running mate? Who should he pick?

Obama's problem is that for all his strengths as a candidate, he's got a bunch of conflicting vulnerabilities - he lacks national security credibility and executive experience; he has no military record; he's been weak with white working-class voters; he's a relatively inexperienced politician; some women will want a woman on the ticket to soothe the sense that Hillary got passed over; he also wants to appeal to Latino voters, but a female or Latino running mate might be too much to swallow for a lot of white male voters. Not only is that a long list, but the identity-politics pitfalls mean it's a contradictory one.

Read On for the rest of the roundtable...

I think Jim Webb's the most likely pick - he helps Obama play geographic offense (Virginia, along with Colorado, is his chief red-state pickup target especially with Mark Warner running a strong and very well-financed campaign there), he's the classic macho white guy who matches McCain's Naval Academy and Vietnam vet bio, he provides a cost-free patina of bipartisanship without actually disagreeing with the party line on any issue of consequence...the downside is that he's also a very inexperienced and, to put it mildly, unpredictable campaigner and debater. I could easily see Webb play the "I served and you didn't" card in a debate while completely forgetting who the top guys on the ticket are.

Among the women, I would think Kathleen Sebelius, since she's a heartland-state governor and is, shall we say, not as un-telegenic as Janet Napolitano. Like McCain, Obama would be fool to take another Senator with no executive experience (at least Webb has been a Cabinet Secretary).

Obama will also be tempted to take a man-in-uniform type like General Anthony Zinni or Wes Clark, but Webb is green enough as a politician; taking a complete political novice and domestic-policy cipher may not be as disastrous as it would be for McCain, but it's still a high-risk strategy. It didn't work out well for Ross Perot, and you can't pick a more distinguished miliary man than Jim Stockdale. Also, Wesley Clark is nuts, and looks nuts (the man never blinks).

Then there's the Rust Belt governors, Rendell and Strickland. Assuming they hold up under vetting, which may be a questionable assumption in both cases, I could see the case for them, but Strickland's basically a nonentity who backed into the governorship and Rendell is just more big-city machine-politician than a guy from Chicago needs. Rendell's great on TV, though.

But I would not count out Bill Richardson - yes, it would mean two non-white males running together, but Richardson covers all the kinds of experience you could want, he's an excellent retail campaigner (though a poor, gaffe-prone debater), would excite Latinos and help put more Western states in play. If I was advising Obama, I might lean towards Richardson.

Adam C: If I were advising Obama, I'd recommend a shortlist of Strickland, Rendell, Sebelius, Webb, and Richardson in that order. The GOV of large swing states where Obama polls below the generic D are at the top of the list for electoral purposes.

The only major problem with them (barring a vetting issue) is that neither has foreign policy experience. I'm not sure how big of a deal that will be to Obama's decision-making.

Sebelius and Webb both will probably appeal to Obama's "change" mentality as they are not run-of-the-mill Ds.

Dark horses include GOVs Easley (NC), Bredesen (TN) and Kaine (VA).

Ben Domenech: Rendell is not a realistic option. Too many skeletons. Richardson has many of the same problems, and I think he's kind of tapped out on the national stage...post his Judas action, he doesn't bring along the Clinton people I think.

I think Obama's emerging staffing weakness is that he appears to like people who are like him, not necessarily because they are the right person for the job.

Webb would absolutely fit that pattern. On paper, he's a straight-talking "new kind of politics" guy, a Scots-Irish guy who immediately brings up the racialism and Confederate-leanings of the Republican Party as a symbol of its defeat. Obama would rationalize it as even though he's another Senator, he's from a swing state, has even less voting history, and though a vet, is clearly a nutroots candidate on the war - he'd be a huge play for Appalachia and winning West Virginia and VA. He solves the most problems of all of the potentials on paper, as being an outreach to the white working class, to vets, and to a swing state where McCain is still likely to win absent a big ground game.

The reason I'd love it, of course, is that Webb is one of the absolute worst trail politicians you can possibly find. He hates everything about campaigning and what it demands. He wants things given to him on a silver platter - just like Allen's head was in 06 - and he will profoundly dislike doing anything but rallies with Obama, where he can exult in the crowd's cheers. And what's more, he's ripe for his own macaca moments...the great irony of the 06 cycle was that Webb said nearly as many nutty things, they just didn't get put on YouTube. So they don't exist! But as a Veep nominee, there's no escaping the cameras.

Easley's an interesting idea. I don't think Bredesen brings anything to the table. Kaine was disliked by the nutroots prior to this latest endorsement. Now, he is HATED. He's got no presence on the stage, he's only popular because of Mark Warner's coattails, and as a truly moderate guy, he's got no natural constituency. He'd be a terrible choice.

Dan McLaughlin: Unlike McCain, one thing that might work for Obama is picking an older guy who has been semi-retired, most likely Sam Nunn. Nunn has a true Washington Wise Man reputation, he's old but still 2 years younger than McCain, and he's got credibility on defense issues. That said, he's deadly dull as a speaker, he's been out of the public eye for 12 years, he wouldn't make a dent in his own state, and Wikipedia's quick list of his positions shows why he'd be less than popular with the party's base:

Overall, Nunn was a moderate-to-conservative Democrat who often broke with his party on a host of social and economic issues. He strongly opposed the budget bill of 1993, which included provisions to raise taxes in order to reduce the deficit. He was also vehement in his opposition to President Bill Clinton's proposal to allow homosexuals to serve openly in the military. He voted in favor of school prayer, capping punitive damage awards, amending the U.S. Constitution to require a balanced budget, and limiting death penalty appeals. On certain issues like abortion, the environment, gun control, and affirmative action, Nunn took a more moderate line. He consistently voted in favor of increased immigration. One of his most controversial votes was his vote against the Gulf War.

(ed. - this is why Goldberg's talking up Nunn as a McCain running mate)

I'd agree with Ben that Bredesen is too conservative for Obama (the man dismantled his state's version of HillaryCare) and Kaine is a non-starter.

Pejman Yousefzadeh: I don't think that we should underestimate the possibility of someone like Sam Nunn being selected. He certainly brings defense and national security credentials to the table and he is currently working on nuclear proliferation issues--cooperating closely with Bill Cohen, Henry Kissinger and George Shultz to actually eliminate nuclear weapons. This is unrealistic, to say the least, but it will allow the Obama campaign to highlight the Senator's own work with Richard Lugar to curb proliferation problems. And Obama may potentially use Nunn's efforts to establish a bipartisan consensus on national security issues to claim that he too is prepared to be a uniter, not a divider on policy matters.

Ben Domenech: I suggested Nunn to a friend about a month ago as a great way for Obama to pick an older professor type to connect himself with the old guard without compromising his new politics message. Then I went back and looked at Nunn footage, and decided against it - he's just too soporific. But he's still an interesting choice.

Academic Elephant: What about Bill Bradley? He's tanned and rested.

Pejman Yousefzadeh: From the Democrats' perspective, of course, the downside to Nunn is that he opposed Clinton on integrating gays into the military.

Mark Kilmer: Obama's main problem against McCain will be his political immaturity. Jim Webb, besides being one of the least bright members of the Senate, has no idea what he is doing. He's a buffoon who could only add a touch of clownhood to Obama, which is something to which Obama will be vulnerable but must avoid.

I don't know what is going on between Barrys ears, but he ought to select New Mexico's Bill Richardson as a running mate. By the running media account, there is not a politican in America who can be taken more seriously than Richardson. They see him as an expert to lead on any issue. Gas prices and alternative fuels? He was a Clinton Energy Secretary. Diplomacy to avoid these nasty wars? He was a Clinton UN Ambassador. The bold "change" ticket? Richardson is Hispanic. For the insane base? Richardson campaign on GET OUT OF IRAQ NOW!

And some dopey NYT reporter would love concocting a late night sessions at which Obama and Richardson "talk shop" in an intellectual discussion covering all that ails America.

Pejman Yousefzadeh: Oh, please, God, no. Listening to Richardson at a debate is a nightmare. "Diplomacy" is his answer to any and all foreign policy problems and while I don't have an issue with diplomacy per se, I do have an issue with someone repeating the word "diplomacy" over and over and over and over and over during the space of a debate answer to the point where you want to stab yourself in the eardrum with a dull pencil just to relieve the agonizing pain.

Bill Richardson is the political equivalent of smooth, light jazz at a dentist's office. He actually makes you look forward to the drill and the root canal.

Dan McLaughlin: AE, I could see him taking Bradley. Bradley is a longtime favorite of 'good-government' liberals (though he did no more to clean up his own state's party than Obama has) and he has the requisite air of gravitas. He's also, like Nunn, impressively dull, but I think dull would do Obama some good, actually. Some people mistake dull for serious, and Obama brings enough flair for two candidates (nobody minded that Bradley was dull when he played with Clyde Frazier). Both would be very Cheney-esque picks.

Then again, the guy who is running the vetting process presided over the selection of Geraldine Ferraro in 1984 and John Edwards in 2004, neither of whom was at all that kind of candidate.

Dan McLaughlin: Pejman - One of the really telling anecdotes from the Democratic debates is this, as told by Richardson:

"I had just been asked a question -- I don't remember which one -- and Obama was sitting right next to me. Then the moderator went across the room, I think to Chris Dodd, so I thought I was home free for a while. I wasn't going to listen to the next question. I was about to say something to Obama when the moderator turned to me and said, 'So, Gov. Richardson, what do you think of that?' But I wasn't paying any attention! I was about to say, 'Could you repeat the question? I wasn't listening.' But I wasn't about to say I wasn't listening. I looked at Obama. I was just horrified. And Obama whispered, 'Katrina. Katrina.' The question was on Katrina! So I said, 'On Katrina, my policy . . .' Obama could have just thrown me under the bus. So I said, 'Obama, that was good of you to do that.'"

Mark Kilmer: I can hear the violins.

And, Pej, what you said about Richardson is also true, to a less developed extent, of Obama himself. You'll hear the mesmerizable masses murmur: "Obama, Richardson, Hope, Change. Obama, Richardson, Hope, Change," and it's off to the airports to buy the flowers they're selling.

Pejman Yousefzadeh: The difference is that Obama--to his credit--has access to a thesaurus and can occassionally change his word choice. With Richardson . . . not so much.

Brad Smith: Strickland would be a strong candidate - a guy who might actually help carry a state vital to McCain's chances, and who would soothe the waters roiled by Rev. Wright.

But if we're going to speculate, let's get beyond the obvious candidates whose names are circulating. I could see Obama going to an old Democratic sage, a Lloyd Bentsen type. Experience, military background, more conservative, geographic balance. If he wants a legacy he can replace this pick with a younger man for his second term in 2012.

So who fits the bill? The name that comes to my mind is former Georgia Senator and Chairman of the Armed Services Committee Sam Nunn, who is 69 years old. He meets every item listed above, he's not too old, but he's old enough no one seeking to succeed Obama (Clinton? others?) will be threatened, and old enough to bow out gracefully in 4 years if Obama wants to annoint a younger successor. Plus he's been out of the limelight so he hasn't had to take votes on the war, etc., that could clash with the campaign's positions (unlike Lieberman in 2000, who had to do lots of embarrassing gyrations to make his past statements jibe with the position of his running mate in the 2000 campaign). And he'd help carry Georgia, a state Obama thinks he can at least put in play and maybe win.

Brad Smith: I see Dan beat me to Nunn by a couple minutes! Darn!

Academic Elephant: I still don't see why more people don't think Bradley is better than Nunn.

Dan McLaughlin: Well, Nunn's a Southern moderate, and was considered a bipartisan kind of guy. Bradley's a northeastern egghead liberal, which is a demographic that Obama already has locked up.

Nobody's mentioned Al Gore yet, but he seems like the one guy who would genuinely not want the job again.

Academic Elephant: Bradley could help in PA and the egghead part could help shore up Obama's lightweight problem. I think he's a more attractive choice than Nunn.

Thomas Crown: (1) He's from New Jersey. In many parts of this great land, that eliminates him on its face.

(2) He's kinda ugly.

Dan McLaughlin: AE - True. And I could easily imagine photo ops of them shooting a few hoops. They'd definitely be the tallest ticket in history.

Mark Kilmer: But isn't Nunn too old school for the HopeChange bit? A return to the politics of yesterday doesn't work for the Obama campaign.

Thomas Crown: Al Gore is praying for a fight that goes to the Convention, so he can be a man -- the man -- for the hour.

Academic Elephant: I agree with that.

Dan McLaughlin: If Obama thinks he's going to carry Georgia, either (1) he's out of his mind or (2) he knows something that we don't that will render any and all decisions about this election pointless.

Academic Elephant: Is that a state where Barr might make a difference?

Thomas Crown: Doubtful.

Academic Elephant: Well, if Barr polls at 5-8 in GA, would Nunn make it competitive if Obama takes 95% of African American voters?

Thomas Crown: Barr won't poll at 5-8; and I believe Black turnout would roughly have to increase by half again.

Dan McLaughlin: We're off topic here, but basically I think Barr will only be trouble in some of the narrowly-divided Western states like NV & NM, where 1-2% of the vote could tip the outcome. I know Thomas likes to remind us that the Western states are not the libertarian utopias sometimes portrayed by the people who lay claim to half of Goldwater's legacy, but there are a few percentage points of people there who have strong libertarian leanings, at least some of whom are potential Republican voters in a 2-candidate race.

Getting back on topic, I don't think either candidate should worry much about Barr in selecting a running mate.

Thomas Crown: I agree: This isn't about worry about third-party candidates, because nothing either major candidate will do change that dynamic.

Pejman Yousefzadeh: Now that Chuck Hagel is retiring and likely ending all association with the Republican Party as a consequence, he could be a potential maverick pick.

Dan McLaughlin: Hagel will get considered, but he's basically voted as a down-the-line social conservative. That's not going to keep him in contention for long.

Brad Smith: Bradley is clearly better than none.

Bradley Smith

Brad Smith: Another out of nowhere senior statesman with military experience would be former Senator, Oklahoma Governor, and President of U. of Oklahoma David Boren, who is under age 70. Boren endorsed Obama a month or so ago. He's avoided divisive votes in recent years being out of DC, but voted against the First Gulf War in 1990, which might satisfy the hard left.

California Yankee: Obama should pick Hillary. There would be a great love fest, and unification, among the Democrats. I do not see that happening. But I wouldn't have predicted Reagan to pick Bush either. I agree with Dan about the necessity of selecting someone with executive experience. I would not suggest a female. The folk in flyover country can only be pushed so far. Obama needs someone who is white, or Richardson-like Hispanic, and male. I would rule out Richardson for a number of reason. He was irrelevant as a candidate. Then there are the security issues when he was Secretary of Energy. I see Obama left with the likes of General Zinni, Governor Corzine, Bob Kerrey and Mayor Bloomberg.

Dan McLaughlin: Richardson is indeed something of a scandal Typhoid Mary. He was the UN Ambassador when we set up Oil-for-Food, too. But I still think he beats many of the alternatives.

Kerrey's too supportive of the Iraq War and too critical of his own party on the same score.

Corzine would be a terrible pick for a host of reasons.

Mark I: Obama's biggest weaknesses are foreign policy/military experience and executive experience generally. But if the Obama campaign were asked to pick one, I'd bet they pick executive experience as the most in need of shoring up. I believe that Obama believes in himself so much that he won't think his relative lack of foreign policy gravitas is all that bad. He probably just think that if he does the opposite of Bush he'll do just fine. For that reason, I don't think he goes with the military guy. Jim Webb, Gens. Jim Jones, Anthony Zinni, and Wes Clark will be considered but probably passed over. Webb would be the best of the bunch, but another first-term Senator as the VP might get him laughed off the stage.

So that leaves Obama with the governors. I don't see him picking a woman as a running mate. I think the list of acceptable women is one name long and Obama would be making a mistake along the lines of Hannibal crossing the Alps on elephants by picking her. So Sebelius and Napolitano are out. Rendell is long on experience and gravitas but short on loyalty. He is too closely connected with the Clintons to be trusted. Plus he campaigned very actively for her in PA, where Obama lost by 10 points. Strickland is also a Hillary guy albeit to a lesser degree. If he goes governor, I think he looks to moderate Democrats from swing or Southern states. Bredersen from Tennessee could get a look, but if I were advising Obama, I'd look closley at Joe Manchin from West Virginia.

Manchin was officially neutral in the West Virginia primary when he could have very easily sided with Clinton and the 68% of the state's Democrarts who voted for her. He has cut taxes and is viewed as fiscally responsible, which won't mean much to Obama but would help with outreach to rural working class Democrats. Manchin has a decent national image, being hailed for his swift and genuinely caring response to the miner's tragedy in the state some years ago.

If Obama decides to go the elder statesman route, I wouldn't overlook former Sen. George Mitchell. He is known as an international peace maker for the Northern Ireland deal and may lend some credibility to Obama's desire to negotiate with Iran and Syria. Plus, as chairman of Disney, he has executive experience and a foot in the business world, the better to soothe Wall Street executives nervous about an Obama led economy.

Dan McLaughlin: Manchin's one of the people I forgot to mention - if Obama's picking a governor he'd be one of the better choices.

Adam C: Ditto Dan. I thought I was forgetting a rust belt GOV and that was it. I think the new KY Governor is too new. But Machin (WV), Strickland (OH), Rendell (PA), Bredesen (TN), Easley (NC) and Kaine (VA) cover a wide region.

Moe Lane: First off, let me repeat: assuming.

Second, I think that we're going about this all wrong: we're all a). policy wonks and b). not particularly impressed by Barack Obama. His supporters, on the other hand, are either not policy wonks, or are else allowing themselves to be overwhelmed by the idea of Barack Obama - and he's playing to them, not to us. So, nobody will be picked in order to balance the ticket: from their point of view (and, happily, Obama's) there's no need for balance.

What they'll want - expect - instead is somebody that they can perceive as being almost as cool as Barack Obama.

If I had to guess, I'd guess Mark Warner. Sure, it'd mean quitting the Senate race, but the Obama's whim must be deemed more important than the needs of Virginia.

Moe Lane: Jim Webb would make an excellent Eagleton to Obama's McGovern. Only with more barely-repressed rage.

Plus, I will highly enjoy watching people ask Webb about this article. Over and over and over again. At every opportunity. Until he punches somebody.

Dan McLaughlin: Well, Moe, I don't think Warner would accept or the rest of the DNC would sit for punting a Senate race that right now looks like a lock (Gilmore may be a comparatively weak candidate, but he's strong enough that if you replaced Warner with a totally unknown Generic D, Gilmore would suddenly have better than an even shot).

Also, I'll say it right here: if Obama loses the general election, I regard Warner as the favorite to be the Democrats' POTUS nominee in 2012.

Obama's people may be impressed with Obama but they can read polls and newspapers and listen to McCain, too. They know two things:

1. Obama's having trouble nailing down some segments of the Democratic voting public.

2. McCain is hammering him on foreign policy experience.

I think they will focus on those as the areas Obama needs to shore up. Which brings us back to the fact that Webb's the one guy who best fits the profile on both counts, and why I expect him to end up as the top name on the list.

Thomas Crown: I really, really think we're making too much of the Double Senator pick. Political junkies and folks who pay attention might be unnerved by having too little executive experience; morons won't be. Vice Presidents are chosen (a) to succeed the President in case of tragedy, (b) to placate some wing or other of the Party, and/or (c) to reassure the morons. Kitten has a problem with a particular subgroup of morons (arguably, some heavily overlapping groups of morons). Kitten reasonably expects not to have a heart attack during his first term. Kitten only needs to pacify one wing of his Party.

This leaves two choices: Cankles or Webb. He'd be certifiably insane to bring the Clintons into the White House with him without a legion of food tasters and neutering Bill, so Cankles is probably out. That leaves Born Fidgeting.

Mark Kilmer: But, Moe, Obama has to play to the people who aren't already entranced by HopeChangeHope. He has to make HopeChangeHope appealable to the more serious, bread-and-butter electorate, and I still think Richardson fits that bill. And to hear the media recite the qualities, Richardson is as hip as Obama. Bill Richardson is Uomo Universale, and you don't get much kewler than that.

That's what I'd be pushing if I were a member of Team Obama. Then I'd kill myself.

Moe Lane: Well, we are assuming that Obama's the nominee, Dan. At this point, that sort of implies that the DNC is going to sit still for giving him the nod; why not keep going, and have them cater to his every whim?

As for Webb... he says things. Things that his new Party can only ignore because he's just a Senator from a Red State.

Moe Lane: Mark, that's the glorious thing about this election, and why the nomination hasn't been settled yet: you and I may think that he has to, but his supporters don't. We've all seen how they get when the slightest imperfection is suggested about their idol; and that's a double-edged sword. It's like that Sacred King anthropological nonsense, only for real.

Anyway, they look at Richardson, they see an overweight old guy with a beard. Not Obama-worthy.

Neil Stevens: Moe, isn't there also the Strange New Respect effect, too, since he's an ex-Reagan guy?

Moe Lane: Actually, no. He skipped the most important part of SNR: the repudiation of heresy and the affirmation of orthodoxy. Webb hasn't repented in public yet.

Let's make him.

Francis Cianfrocca (blackhedd): Not sure if anyone has said this yet, but the only logical choice for Obama is Hillary Clinton.

There, I said it. Yes, her negatives are high, but it does give Obama a chance to claw back some of the support he would otherwise have trouble with in swing states. Yes, it’s possible to overestimate the support she can bring that he can’t (the old “they’re Democrats, they won’t vote for McCain” argument), but even if we’re not talking about much, it will still matter.

The objection to this is that Obama and Clinton hate each other. Sure, but so what? This is all about getting elected President of the United States. It’s totally underrating both Obama and the Democrat Party to assume that he won’t ever go near her again, or that the Dems won’t successfully heal all of their division that we’ve enjoyed watching these last few months.

If all Obama has to do is grit and grin for the cameras while holding Clinton’s hand for the next few months, he can do it. Hell, if he can’t, then he’s too thin-skinned to be a school-board president, much less POTUS.

Thomas Crown: Well, like I said, you'd be right except for the fact that he'd have to be freaking nuts to take her on board without making sure she can't de Medici him.

Dan McLaughlin: Yes, blackhedd, but here it does matter that Obama thinks the stars are well-aligned for him and he can choose from a position of relative strength. He believes he's a strong candidate in a good environment; thus, he will seek to patch weak spots, not do drastic surgery, and will do so with an eye to governing after the election.

That means the last thing he wants is a VP he can't trust who has an independent base of support in the party, knows the place better than he does and has a limitless capacity for generating distraction and scandal.

If Hillary's the VP, Obama will still be awake when the phone rings at 3am, because he'll be afraid to put the lights out.

Francis Cianfrocca (blackhedd): Interesting and cogent analysis. This is certainly an argument that Obama might go for.

But I’m imaging how I’d react in his place. There are tremendous near-term political benefits (becoming the great uniter, etc) to putting Hillary on the ticket.

And if it were me, I’d listen to all the arguments and counterarguments around the table, and then I’d probably say to myself: “I can handle this b****, no problem.”

I probably wouldn’t say to myself: “A man in my position has to know his limitations, and she’s one of ‘em.”

Thomas Crown: I agree with that last part. To be President, you have to think you're more or less invincible.

Charles Bird. Nominating Richardson or Hillary will not help Obama there's already a minority on the ticket. Like with McCain and my endorsement of Jindal, Obama needs someone who will balance the slate. He needs someone who is white and male. His running mate should not be hard left, because Obama already has that ideological sector covered. The VP choice should also have experience, gray hair, and a good military background, and is more centrist. The best candidate, the one who fills all those categories, is Wesley Clark. The general wasn't that good of a presidential candidate, but all he really has to do this time around is neutralize McCain's advantage on military and foreign policy military. Jim Webb would be a good choice, too, and may just be Obama's guy.

A surprise wild card pick would be Chuck Hagel. He's already retiring from the Senate, and most Republicans (and pretty much all conservatives) don't like him anyway. The pick would be conditioned on Hagel leaving the GOP and going either Independent or Democrat.

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